[转帖]民富不等于国强
这是浙大“四大名嘴”有名的“愤青”教授，以前在浙江图书馆做的演讲的全文，可能好多同学已经看过，但我觉得讲真的很不错，很给人启发，所以传上来给大家分享。 ??????????????? <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">作为一个学者，我不是来卖弄嘴皮子的。借助这个讲坛，我认为各行各业对知识的接受是潜移默化，循序渐近的过程。下面从自然科学的角度来谈谈我的一些观点，我提出几个重大问题：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">第一，我国搞了几十年的科学研究与攻关，在几十个工业门类中，到底有哪几个是属于中国的民族工业或者可以称为自己的工业的？到底有哪几项科研在国际上是数一数二的？中国现在到底需要什么？我经常出国，每出一次国，灵魂就受到一次洗礼，就巴不得在回来的第二天就去中小学讲。为什么？就是感到紧迫的压力和羞愧，特别是去了日本和韩国，这两个同属于东方国家去了之后，感触更多下面这四个方面，是近５年吹得最厉害的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">先说纳米，这也是从美国人开始的。我是一个教授，在浙大当老师，浙大的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">求是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">是个无价之宝。现在中国的知识分子有个弱点，就是不喜欢人家说自己的缺陷，更不愿意自己说自己的缺陷。我今天就愿意来揭揭自己的短，面对产业家，我更应该说实话。中国今天的科技很多都是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">跟踪</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，这也难为中<personname wst="on" productid="国的">国的</personname>教授，因为日子过得较苦，没有钱，加上很多领导同志本身也没有知识，为了蒙领导，让他们拨一点钱，总把一些文章、报告、口号写得越高越好。比如，现在教育界号称</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">建世界第一流大学</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，教育部跨世纪发展计划中定的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">10</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所大学，现在已选定了９所，第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">10</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所还未选出。在中国这个发展中国家，你能建</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">10</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所世界一流大学，那美国有多少所？日本有多少所？现在的实际状况是：世界上前</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">200</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">所大学，中国一所都排不进！在亚洲能排出几所？我到国外去看了以后，感到要将浙大建成世界一流大学就像共产主义理想，我们永远要努力！但是，我们不应该去追求这样虚幻的目标，去呼这样的口号，我们的差距还很大。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">现在的几个行业也是前几年套着中国科技产业目标走得几个方向。像纳米，它只不过是一个尺度概念。各种尺度的材料都有各自的用，比如，为什么要把泥土拿来做成砖，砖的尺度比沙泥要大得多，因为小的沙粒没有强度。我们怎么能把丰富多彩的物质世界只说成是一个纳米呢？所以，都没有注意是谁提出的这个口号的，其实我们又中了美国人的圈套！这与军备竞赛是一样的。超导中国科学院在搞；基因上海在搞；纳米全国在搞，连工厂技术员也在搞。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">刚才<personname wst="on" productid="何祚庥">何祚庥</personname>先生讲的悬浮列车，不要以为上海的高楼大厦与东京、大阪一样，中国就现代化了。修一个房子、修一座桥非常容易，但你要看看国民素质到了一个什么样的阶段。日本大楼里走出来的人都是受过高等教育的；而我们上海的大厦里走出来的人却都是些腰缠万贯的文盲！怎么能说国家已经现代化了？浙江杭州搞的世贸会挺漂亮，但你可以去西溪河看看，如果西溪河能出现小鸟、天鹅，杭州就现代化了，这不是一个穿一件衣服的问题。我们最需要的是什么？我们不要用这些东西来摆样子！我们应该关注我国的哪几个方面？</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/></span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">这是我的一些建议，提出的一些口号</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">,</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">以前说</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">无知无畏</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，现在却是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">无知才无畏</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，许多企业把浙江省技术监督局、科委的人请来吃一顿饭，喝一点酒，他就给你签个字，再把我们这些教授胁迫到那里去，给你盖个章，然后就是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">填补国内外空白</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">国际先进水平</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，写论文则是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">国际领先水平的研究成果</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">首次科学发现</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">等等，这都是目前非常严重的问题！作为一个大学教授，我深深地为此担忧！这不是我们的责任，是我们的领导无知，是他们倡导了这个主流。我知道在座的处长或老总日子很难过，因为你们不写这样的报表，就拿不到钱，项目就得不到批准。教授也同样如此，天天写报告，而不是在实验室静下心来好好搞研，这是很严重的！</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">科学家说，纳米无所不能，这一说，大家就都去搞纳米了；老板说：纳米商机无限，再不上就没有机会了，因此，宁波想干，诸暨想干，天台也想干，大家都来搞纳米。科学家知道纳米不稳定，它做成材料就聚集在一起，但产业家并不知道这一点。有人说，纳米这么好，我们都变成纳米人多好，但高的篮球谁打？篮框得降低了。纳米人的作用可否用在脑血栓治疗上，不用吃药，脑袋上挖个小孔让纳米人钻进去清理一下就行了。这些东西可能只有我在说不好。纳米在最近的一二个月里在浙江炒得很厉害，什么</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">纳米冰箱能防霉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，我就不明白：一个是生物学与卫生学的概念、一个是材料尺寸的纳米怎么会防霉？所以，要千万注意，无知的人骗起人来不得了，因为他胆子大，什么都敢说，所以说：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">无知才无理</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，我们懂一点的就不敢随便讲，这是误导！现在，让科学界的人感到很困惑：许多与纳米研究无关，不具备纳米科研的单位都在上纳米项目，开设了许多新的战场。作为商界的人士，这个投入是风险投入，所得到的绝对回报是非常危险的。越是高科技的东西，越不要指望它的市场回报，这个概念是我今天提出的。新闻界的人在干什么？新闻界的同志喜欢写一些新东西。我知道，没有新东西写起来不精彩。误导与新闻界有关，新闻界听到一点就是一个片，如此描述宣传以致于浙江的报纸整版整版地写纳米。我特别地告诫大家，这是把整个一个学科的概念搞得非常庸俗！</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">下面我谈谈科技问题。我们整个国家民族工业的基础极其脆弱，这几年我在日本商店购物，日本的袜子、手巾、低档毛衣、低档服装全都是中国产的，这是否感到光荣？其实，我们所谓的外资合营企业，所引进的东西，真正有科技的含量极少，这就是我们的天真，就是我们领导的天真！比如，东京这么大的城市，全部的电视频道就只有６个，杭州有多少个？这是很清楚的。拿什么钱吃什么饭，我们现在是在吃国家的饭，所以，开了这么多频道不怕赔也不怕赚，而日本就不能这样。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我在日本１０天，没有看到一条有关中国的消息，这也是中国人的天真</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">.</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">广岛亚运会在日本召开时，有哪一个中国人得金牌的镜头能在日本的电视上看得到？日本人喜欢围棋，但他不知道聂卫平是谁。我国现在是需要国际化，但国际化了以后连自己的祖宗是谁都不知道了，连自己的民族文化什么都不知道了，所以我要说，改革开放２０年，我们到底在经济上，科技上得到了什么？好的是有的，但作为一个科学家，我要深思：我们在高科技上得到了什么？日本、韩国、美国基本都是把国内不能生产的、低价的东西转移到第叁世界国来生产。你并没有得到高科技，你以为他会给你高科技吗？不会的！比如汽车，我们联营了这么多家，但日本的汽车技术，比如丰田，都是第二代、第叁代之前的，他不会给你先进的！为什么现在柯尼卡、柯达、富士在中国</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">大跳水</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">？就是要挤跨乐凯，这个中国现在剩下的唯一一个国产胶卷！等哪一天乐凯垮掉了，国外的胶卷就会全部涨价！现在在中国卖的进口胶卷比日本、美国的都便宜，这就是倾销！这一点中国人并不知道。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/></span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">为什么我们的大学排不进前</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">200</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">名？因为规定要有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">800</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">篇ＦＣＡ的论文才能进入前</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">200</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">名。为什么浙好不容易搞了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">10</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">年的科研却没有钱？教授的论文写得少了，平均一个教授没有一篇，像我这样一年能写５</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">.</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">６篇的很少。为什么？中<personname wst="on" productid="国的">国的</personname>教授一个月的工资平均只有</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">1500</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">元，相当于</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">170</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">美元；美<personname wst="on" productid="国的">国的</personname>教授拿多少工资？他的一篇文章值多少钱？可见中<personname wst="on" productid="国">国</personname>教授便宜了！美<personname wst="on" productid="国">国</personname>教授成本高！为什么会是这样？所以，我非常担心这样下去，再过５年、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">10</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">年，你到底还有些什么东西？这样恶性循环后，我们基本上没有自己的工业了！我不赞成</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">造船不如买船，买船不如租船</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">，过若干年再看看，将会是什么样子？</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">下面谈谈我个人的观点</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">第一，我们国家的现实和发展就是这样：凡是依赖不成的，我们自己都能搞得像模像样，比如二弹一星；凡是能够引进的，就都搞不成。为什么？企业的科技人员辛辛苦苦地搞一个技术革新，只要区里的计委领导、省里的计经委领导哪一天带着人到美国去考察一下，买来几个电器产品，跟他们签个协议，然后再到美国去培训</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">10</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">天，引进一条线，马上就可以把你这个国营企业打跨，这就是现实！现在很多合资企业就这样，卖点东西，而没有去考虑这些深层次的东西。殊不知这就是社会的恶性循环！关于电信的事，我只跟电信部门这样说：这点电话费我付得起！但是，你们想没有，你们从自己的这个角度赚了消费者的钱，但消费者里面有大夫，你电信的就不生病吗？你若进医院，他给你卖高价药行吗？我开玩笑：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">你别看我是个穷教授，赚不了钱。我今天回去就去查名单，看我这个学院、我这个系的学生有多少你们电信部门的子女，到了下个学期全部不及格！若要及格，每分交</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">5000</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">元钱。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">但我决不会这么做！若这样做，这个世界就乱了。作为社会成员，一定要有这样的思想：大家是互相依存的，我们这个国家也同样。但是很多人只考虑自己，只要自己赚钱而不管别人怎样，若那样的话，天就可能得到报应。这是我的一个观点。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">下面这几个问题是最重要的问题：中国需要什么样的教育？中国需要什么样的人才？中国需要什么样的科技？中国需要什么样的产业</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">?</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">教育、学习是为了什么？</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">最近，幼儿园、小学、中学、大学以及饭店、各个厂矿企业等单位都邀请我去演讲，这是我应该为社会做的，是我的本份，加上我身兼数职：院长、系主任，所长等，他们开口就要找博士。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">其实，这需要共同语言受教育的层次、人格的素质，这才是最重要的！现在很多人对学生的教育没有注重这个方面。中小学在搞素质教育，什么叫素质？英语、计算机、钢琴都会一点儿能算是素质吗？我住的那层楼的孩子都在弹钢琴，我就听到二楼的一个男孩子在弹《致爱丽丝》时，边弹边哭、边骂他妈妈。爸爸妈妈都是音盲，却一定要把孩子培养成音乐家。这么好的太阳，让孩子坐在屋里，他能受得了吗？这是何必呢？幼儿园３岁开始学英语，我这个观点不知你们是否赞同，我在学校讲课时，学生们听了觉得我所说的正符合了他们的心意。我认为：语言、计算机就是工具。中国的外语教授讲英语还不如美国卖菜的农民！怎么看待这个问题？日本博士、德<personname wst="on" productid="国">国</personname>教授说不出英语的多得是！我们怎么能说一个人不会说英语就是文盲呢？语言就是一个工具！你没有那个环境，他怎么能讲这个语言呢？比如，我３５岁开始学日语，我现在的日语是顶呱呱的。但是，我在国内进修一年，派日本教授来教我，可我就是学不好，非常紧张。因为年龄较大了，学得我白天的语法都错了，晚上做梦全讲日语，且这时讲的语法都是对的！到了日本后，我是在实验室工作，而打工的人２个月学的日语就比我学得溜，这主要就是因为没有环境。所以说，如果我是教育部长，我要改革二件事：</span> <p>不知道教授是怎么样被胁迫去的</p><p>那些政府官员是怎么样被拉去吃饭的</p> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">后，男同学就得写检查，家长也要跟着写检查。我第一次写时很难受，怎么能做这种事呢？后来就习惯了。到了星期五就问儿子：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">这个星期要不要写？</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">反正脸皮也厚了，写就写吧。问题是，实际上他只违反了一次纪律就同时被６个女孩子看见了，这也算６次！但是，我并不为我儿子担心，我认为：他受这点挫折也好、压抑也好，对他一生的成长有好处；而我恰恰担心的是那６个女同学，以后怎么能够经历得打击和挫折！这样的教育是很令人深思的。所以，我作为一个博士生导师</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">,</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我从来是看人不看学历的，学历不等于能力。你们现在的招聘动不动就要高学历，我就是要批判这样做。我提出一个命名，叫</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">消费学历</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"──</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">就是滥用学历。现在提拔干部也同样，不看他的身体，到了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">60</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">岁，有些身体特别棒且有能力的人也要让他退休；而有的人叁、四十岁得了肝炎，还得让他干，这就是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">一刀切</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">。招聘时也总是看学历。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">学历是指一个人读书还可以，并不能代表他能够当你的经营人员、开发人员。我们有很多同学成绩好，却什么都做不了。在我们大学像我这种程度的人，招博士生是从来不看成绩的，成绩算什么！现在我从事的这个领域在中国有叁个杰出的人才，当初在读研究生时都补考过，而成绩考得好的几个人却都跑到美国去卖中药了，这说明了什么问题？作老板的可不能这样啊！现在浙大有规定，有博士点的，留校就必须<personname wst="on" productid="全部留">全部留</personname>博士生而不准留硕士生，这样，仪器就没有人去操作。人才的梯队一定要合理，而不要认为教授就是万能的、博士就是万能的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">中国的教体系就是让每一个老百姓都充满希望和理想，教育孩子们要树立远大的理想。实际上，人的能力是不一样的，扫地能扫好，也应该受到尊重；打扫厕所能打扫干净，也应该受到尊重，不能动不动就要高学历。我要提醒的是：在国外可不是这样，反之，美国、日本的博士就很难找到工作，为什么？因为老板心疼钱，招了博士要给他高工资，而他能做什么用呢？这是个具体问题。我不知道现在的组织部长、人事处长在干什么，真的是在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">选女婿</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">吗？找这么高学历的人干什么呢？现在，中国的大学提出要培养高层次的人才，我说这话错了，中国现在教育特点应该是让全民得到教育，而不是去培养少数的专门人才。上次全国的化学奥林匹克竞赛在杭州举行，是浙大主办的，学校说来了这么多高校的人挖人才，浙大也要派人去挖，于是派我去了。我去讲了话，我毫不客气地说：进这扇门，我的心情是又高兴又沉重。你们把孩子们搞坏了！为什么？我国搞奥林匹克竞赛</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">──</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">中小学叫奥赛班是举国体制，就是为了得到世界上的一个荣誉！而在美国、日本、西欧国家就只有一个学校，叫</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><font face="宋体, MS Song">Play-again"</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">就是搞着玩的。难道有一个学生得了奥林匹克的冠军，就说明中国的教育好吗？不是，它不能代表我国的真实情况。在那些非重点学校里，有多少孩子在外面赌博、打游戏机！这就是我国教育的一种误区。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我指出：如果作为一个教授来做这样的事，在座的人都感到心痛！作为父母，我们绝不能这样宠爱自己的孩子，把这些孩子当宝贝一样。化学的奥林匹克竞赛，清华、北大的教授来了一大堆，我们今天是在做一件害孩子的事！我的话讲完后，主诗人要下面哪个大学的教授接着讲，他们都不敢上台讲了。请扪心自问：我们这样做对吗？奥林匹克竞赛的结果在浙大的一个现象是：在中学学得好的、保送的，到了大学叁年级成绩都降下去了，孩子这么小，怎么能分等级呢？其实，他们根本就是在同一个起跑线上的，成长的路程还长得很，后天的努力才是最重要的。所以，我始终对孩子、对学生都是鼓励的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: ˎ̥; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><br/><br/><font face="宋体, MS Song"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">我们系里有一个女同学，我看到她一天到晚没有笑脸，就是为了得到那个高分数、为了得到高额的奖学金，我感到很痛心！我说：你这是在用青春买荣誉、买光环，你今后的心灵</span> 文章太长了，贴上来老是出错，只能传了三段。 太长了，太多了。。不想看了
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